[ausev] 40 hp bus

[Ian Ward]

It would be kind of awkward for me to do that since Ford built my EV...and I
work for them, indirectly.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Jim Watson <osious at gmail.com> wrote:

> When I do get an EV on the road I will put a big sign on the back of it
> that says if the big 3 and big oil will kill electric cars, then people will
> build there own!! Like this one!!!! We will stop buying gas and we will see
> who gets scrapped!! hahaha
>
> Jim
>
> P.S. maybe I will get a shity,.. I mean chevy hummer,.. convert it and then
> put the sign on that and drive it right up to the big three's door step!!
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Ian Ward <ian.ward at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was assuming you were comparing the innovation required for vehicles of
>> yesteryear versus those of today. It's a not a fair comparison for millions
>> of reasons.
>> I agree with most of what you are saying, but until the industry rallies
>> around EV technology, the economies of scale make EVs impractical and
>> they'll remain in the garages of enthusiasts. The world society is
>> consumer-driven and until consumers can financially realize (as in benefit
>> from) the improved efficiency of EVs, the majority will not be consumers of
>> EVs. It's finally happening now, but the mistake was make 8 years ago when
>> the domestics killed their EV programs. The price of oil dropping won't help
>> keep in the front of consumer minds, but I think we have an incoming
>> executive and congress that will not loose sight of the future consequences
>> of letting that happen again. Because of the poor decisions made by Detroit,
>> Washington will have the power to make it happen - if we hold them to it.
>>
>> I'm glad you're excited about EVs and I hope you do get one on the road.
>>
>> - ian
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Jim Watson <osious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I wasn't comparing the bus to the steam car, I was just asking where
>>> innovation has gone in this country. 100 years ago we were making cars like
>>> that Dobel. Here is a site that talks about three cars that were made before
>>> the depression that were all alternate fuel vehicles. One was fully
>>> electric! (Baker Electric) Why didn't they make it?? Car companies say we
>>> don't have the technology to make anything other than gas using vehicles.
>>> Jay Leno is the proud owner of all three alternate fuel vehicles that were
>>> made before the depression. They are all very cool,.. You should also look
>>> at the Jay Leno video clip about the Dobel. It is very inspiring! He says
>>> that his Dobel is more sophisticated than any car in his garage. Talk about
>>> innovation!!!! He has lots of million dollar sport cars! The funny thing is,
>>> the gas cars are the MOST inefficient of all vehicles!!! I have heard that
>>> only 20-30% of the gas that you put in your car actualy propels the car
>>> forward. This non-gas using vehicle stuff is so interesting. I am looking
>>> forward to making my own electric car.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/4215940.html?nav=RSS20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ian Ward <ian.ward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah...who needs a seat belts, anti-lock brakes or a roof! And how many
>>>> of those did they sell for $20,000 in 1924? That would be like a quarter
>>>> million dollar car, today.
>>>> Not that I'm defending the big 2.5, but come on! apples to ... cumquat?
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Jim Watson <osious at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I heard about a new bus their making in India. It runs off of a 40 hp
>>>>> gas motor,.... This motor then turns an extremely heavey flywheel up to
>>>>> around 40,000 rpms. They found a way, using composites, to keep the fly
>>>>> wheel from exploding. The bus driver says the bus handles like a Porch. The
>>>>> bus has no brakes,.. hahaha braking actualy restores mechanical power to the
>>>>> flywheel to slow the bus down. cool stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone heard about the 1924 Dobel steam car. It weighs 6000 lbs. It
>>>>> has about 1000 ft lbs of torque. It will start up in less than 30 seconds
>>>>> from (cold to moving). top speed 90 mph. It uses 24 gallons of water and a
>>>>> quart of oil every 100 miles or so. At 70 mph the engine is turning 900
>>>>> rpms!!!! Why can't american car companies be this inovative???? Don't answer
>>>>> that,....
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
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