[ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500

Tue Dec 23 01:33:42 GMT 2008

I'm also on the Ranger-EV mailing list where some of the topic has been
about making range extenders for our trucks. Attempts at using modern
generators have not been successful because they don't create a clean enough
sine wave for the charger, which shuts down to protect itself against the
dirty signal. There are certainly solutions, but count on the extra effort
to solve that problem.
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:22 PM, John Penry at TransTexasTrucks <
jpenry at transtexastrucks.com> wrote:

>  These power generators are not made for vehicle travel, and if your other
> objective is clean air, this is not the way to go.
> You will need to determine the correct size generator to sustain a speed of
> 70 mph, if that is what you plan to do with your 4X4.
>
> There is a book called "The Zero Carbon Car", which used a 3 cylinder
> diesel to generate electricity on the fly, making the Mazda Miata a series
> hybrid.  You may want to get a copy of that book and study his charts on
> power requirements.  That book is over 500 pages of lots of facts and
> figures.
>
> John
> http://www.transtexastrucks.com
> I decided to challenge the Automakers.
> I will make a Plug in Series Hybrid Crew-Cab Pickup before Detroit does.
> But if I lose this race, we all become winners.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Marc Kohler <mkohler at austin.rr.com>
> *To:* 'AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion'<ausev at austinev.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2008 4:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
>
>  There are several with electric start at Northern Tools. (up to 10kW)
>
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> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200369640_200369640
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> Or for even more power (10-17kW)
>
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> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_36+280777+770945
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> Be aware that most of their run times are estimated at ½ loads.
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>
> Marc
>
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>
> *From:* ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Jim Watson
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2008 4:15 PM
> *To:* AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
>
>
>
> I am open to putting something in the bed of the truck. I just saw a
> 10,000W 13 gl, 9HP, 30A @ 240v. They say it will run for 24 hours.($999.00)
> That sounds like it would have way more miles to the gallon than my current
> 10mile/gal. It would be real cool if there was some sort of auto start that
> would start the gen when battery power was getting low. Is there anything
> like that?
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Mike Seningen (mobile) <
> mseningen at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> probably hairbrained .... But could you put a small air cooled enigine in
> the bed... Maybe a VW beetle engine whose sole purpose is to generate
> elctricity for the pack to extend range????
>
> Michael Seningen
> Mbile Phone Account
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From:  JohnFM <johnfm101 at gmail.com>
> Subj:  Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
> Date:  Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:24 pm
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> To:  "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion" <
> ausev at austinev.org>
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> My old conversion used to have a setup like this. It had a Honda 2000
> watt generator hooked up to the 20amp charger (to supplement the
> pack), it would rev up and down depending on current draw. It gave an
> extra boost in range, but was incredibly inefficient. Most generators
> of that type are not that efficient and to power the car completely
> your going to need at least something on the order of 10k watts.
> Voltage doesn't factor that much into it, most generators have 220V or
> 110V ratings already capable of doing this. It's really the power
> rating of the generator and the charge current rating of the charger
> or whatever you plan to connect the generator to.
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Jim Watson <osious at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I bet you guys have already thought about this. So let me bounce this off
> of
> > ya,..
> >
> > I have been thinking about buying a generator with enough juice to power
> an
> > electric motor for my big truck. All this talk about a 40 hp bus and
> train
> > motors just makes me wonder. I think a generator that produces 220V is
> small
> > enough to fit in the engine compartment. I don't think a 220V Gen would
> be
> > big enough either. I am new to car converting so I am unsure of the
> voltages
> > required. I think it is more like around 400 - 500 volts (460V ??)
> >
> > I wonder if there is some sort of throttle controller out there that
> would
> > control the speed or output of the generator, that would only allow the
> > generator to produce just the power that the electric motor needed for
> the
> > desired speed of the vehicle. I am toying with the idea of leaving the
> > transfer case and tranny in it. I need to do some research on generators
> to
> > see. Depending on the motor and generator I may be able to make the truck
> > more torque-y and or powerful. I think the transfer case and transmission
> > have hydraulic lines that run to the engine for gear changing. The
> current
> > tranny is auto. This makes things even more difficult.
> >
> > I read that some one saw a SUV in Florida, it was pulling a trailer with
> a
> > generator on it chugging away. They said that it was complete with a huge
> > wire running from the Gen. to the Vehicle. If the Generator needs to be
> so
> > big that it needs a whole trailer then it is not worth it. Plus it looks
> > stupid. (then it WOULD be a train) hahahaha Then I would stick with
> > converting to pure electric. As much as I hate using gas in a conversion
> it
> > still seems like an interesting idea for a big truck.
> >
> > Any ideas,..
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
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