[ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
Mike Seningen
mseningen at austin.rr.com
Tue Dec 23 01:58:23 GMT 2008
How much can a small engine deliver if you have it drive a DC wound
motor off the crank?
Seems like you should be able to get a good looking sin wave off of that.
Some small diesel or air cooled engine in the bed would be cleaner than
a generator.
Mike
Ian Ward wrote:
> I'm also on the Ranger-EV mailing list where some of the topic has
> been about making range extenders for our trucks. Attempts at using
> modern generators have not been successful because they don't create a
> clean enough sine wave for the charger, which shuts down to protect
> itself against the dirty signal. There are certainly solutions, but
> count on the extra effort to solve that problem.
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:22 PM, John Penry at TransTexasTrucks
> <jpenry at transtexastrucks.com <mailto:jpenry at transtexastrucks.com>> wrote:
>
> These power generators are not made for vehicle travel, and if
> your other objective is clean air, this is not the way to go.
> You will need to determine the correct size generator to sustain a
> speed of 70 mph, if that is what you plan to do with your 4X4.
>
> There is a book called "The Zero Carbon Car", which used a 3
> cylinder diesel to generate electricity on the fly, making the
> Mazda Miata a series hybrid. You may want to get a copy of that
> book and study his charts on power requirements. That book is
> over 500 pages of lots of facts and figures.
>
> John
> http://www.transtexastrucks.com
> I decided to challenge the Automakers.
> I will make a Plug in Series Hybrid Crew-Cab Pickup before Detroit
> does.
> But if I lose this race, we all become winners.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Marc Kohler <mailto:mkohler at austin.rr.com>
> *To:* 'AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion'
> <mailto:ausev at austinev.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2008 4:22 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
>
> There are several with electric start at Northern Tools. (up
> to 10kW)
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200369640_200369640
>
>
>
> Or for even more power (10-17kW)
>
> http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/category_6970_36+280777+770945
>
>
>
> Be aware that most of their run times are estimated at ½ loads.
>
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
> *From:* ausev-bounces at austinev.org
> <mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org>
> [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org
> <mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org>] *On Behalf Of *Jim Watson
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2008 4:15 PM
> *To:* AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
>
>
>
> I am open to putting something in the bed of the truck. I just
> saw a 10,000W 13 gl, 9HP, 30A @ 240v. They say it will run for
> 24 hours.($999.00) That sounds like it would have way more
> miles to the gallon than my current 10mile/gal. It would be
> real cool if there was some sort of auto start that would
> start the gen when battery power was getting low. Is there
> anything like that?
>
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Mike Seningen (mobile)
> <mseningen at austin.rr.com <mailto:mseningen at austin.rr.com>> wrote:
>
> probably hairbrained .... But could you put a small air cooled
> enigine in the bed... Maybe a VW beetle engine whose sole
> purpose is to generate elctricity for the pack to extend range????
>
> Michael Seningen
> Mbile Phone Account
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: JohnFM <johnfm101 at gmail.com <mailto:johnfm101 at gmail.com>>
> Subj: Re: [ausev] convert my dodge ram 4x4 1500
> Date: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:24 pm
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> To: "AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion"
> <ausev at austinev.org <mailto:ausev at austinev.org>>
>
> My old conversion used to have a setup like this. It had a
> Honda 2000
> watt generator hooked up to the 20amp charger (to supplement the
> pack), it would rev up and down depending on current draw. It
> gave an
> extra boost in range, but was incredibly inefficient. Most
> generators
> of that type are not that efficient and to power the car
> completely
> your going to need at least something on the order of 10k watts.
> Voltage doesn't factor that much into it, most generators have
> 220V or
> 110V ratings already capable of doing this. It's really the power
> rating of the generator and the charge current rating of the
> charger
> or whatever you plan to connect the generator to.
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Jim Watson <osious at gmail.com
> <mailto:osious at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > I bet you guys have already thought about this. So let me
> bounce this off of
> > ya,..
> >
> > I have been thinking about buying a generator with enough
> juice to power an
> > electric motor for my big truck. All this talk about a 40 hp
> bus and train
> > motors just makes me wonder. I think a generator that
> produces 220V is small
> > enough to fit in the engine compartment. I don't think a
> 220V Gen would be
> > big enough either. I am new to car converting so I am unsure
> of the voltages
> > required. I think it is more like around 400 - 500 volts
> (460V ??)
> >
> > I wonder if there is some sort of throttle controller out
> there that would
> > control the speed or output of the generator, that would
> only allow the
> > generator to produce just the power that the electric motor
> needed for the
> > desired speed of the vehicle. I am toying with the idea of
> leaving the
> > transfer case and tranny in it. I need to do some research
> on generators to
> > see. Depending on the motor and generator I may be able to
> make the truck
> > more torque-y and or powerful. I think the transfer case and
> transmission
> > have hydraulic lines that run to the engine for gear
> changing. The current
> > tranny is auto. This makes things even more difficult.
> >
> > I read that some one saw a SUV in Florida, it was pulling a
> trailer with a
> > generator on it chugging away. They said that it was
> complete with a huge
> > wire running from the Gen. to the Vehicle. If the Generator
> needs to be so
> > big that it needs a whole trailer then it is not worth it.
> Plus it looks
> > stupid. (then it WOULD be a train) hahahaha Then I would
> stick with
> > converting to pure electric. As much as I hate using gas in
> a conversion it
> > still seems like an interesting idea for a big truck.
> >
> > Any ideas,..
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
>
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