[ausev] Commercial mini cooper conversion braking

[Steve Donie]

I went and checked out the companies website yesterday - they are not
currently selling any kind of kit, and it sounds like they won't be any time
soon. They're looking more for partnerships with companies that would make
cars using the technology.
One thing they are showing now is a Ford F-150 with the same setup.

See http://www.hipadrive.com/whoweare.html and
http://www.hipadrive.com/sema.html and http://www.hipadrive.com/faq.html

On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Jim Watson <osious at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was hoping to do this kind of thing to my truck. Only with a motor for
> the front wheels and a motor for the rear wheels (its already four wheel
> drive). 1 battery pack a couple of ultra caps and a small generator for
> range. The thing I couldn't get passed is the small generator. I have heard
> that they release more emissions than a regular car. And how in the world
> would I connect a motor to the front drive train and the rear??
>
> Anyway, a motor in each wheel would be even better,... less moving parts.
> My question is does the company that is retrofitting the cooper sell kits
> for people like us?? I bet their controller is worth a lot of $$$$$. I would
> like to know what the emissions of their generator are like compared to a
> car's emissions?
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Marc Kohler <mkohler at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> This vehicle was never intended to go into production as configured like
>> this concept vehicle.  As with all concept vehicles, anything goes.  It
>> was
>> purely a demonstrator to showcase the performance capability of wheel
>> motors.  I believe there have been some other concept vehicles since that
>> only use two of their wheel motors and keep the normal brakes, as they
>> didn't require 0-60mph in under 5 seconds.
>>
>> Marc Kohler
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ausev-bounces at austinev.org [mailto:ausev-bounces at austinev.org] On
>> Behalf Of Michael Bonard
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:20 PM
>> To: AustinEV News Announcements and General Discussion
>> Subject: [ausev] Commercial mini cooper conversion braking
>>
>> Don't panic!
>>
>> I read sometime ago that for this car, the kinetic energy recovery
>> provides all the electric power needed to activate the motors in a
>> braking mode.. The more intense the braking, the more power is available
>> to stop the car.. This reminds me of the "wedge brake" principle in the
>> old horse carriages, where the kinetic energy of the carriage was used
>> (through friction) to further engage the wedge and further increase the
>> braking. The only problem I see is that, like the Mini Cooper, there is
>> no braking capability at (or near) zero speed.
>>
>> I do not know how many levels of redundancy they have. This will
>> certainly be investigated during the car road worthiness certification
>> process.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> red scott wrote:
>> > It's got NO BRAKES!!!!! What happens when you have an electrical
>> failure?
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